I have always dreamed extremely vivid – and usually super violent – dreams. But it’s been a long while since I’ve remembered any.
This past week, I’ve had two that stuck with me after the fact.
In one, I dreamed I was in an enclosure hiding from bears. The bears WERE going to attack, and if anyone wasn’t in the enclosure, they WOULD be mauled. There were other people who kept coming into my enclosure, but no one seemed to grasp the fact that BEARS CAN OPEN DOORS, and so they were leaving all the doors unlocked, so I had to keep going around and around to all the doors, locking them and shooting meaningful, grim looks to my fellow enclosees, none of whom seemed capable of grasping the fact that MAULING WAS IMMINENT. There were a LOT of doors, and the enclosure kept expanding. At one point, I went outside into a fenced-in area. The fences had barbed wire on top of them, but they were all only about two feet tall so that a really determined bear could simply step over them.
I think we can all deduce what particular anxiety THAT dream is about.
The other dream is less memorable, and less perilous. But no less upsetting, for me. In the dream, I dropped Carla off at someone’s house for a playdate, and the mother invited me in to join everyone for a snack. The snack was bananas (which I do not eat), but Carla hissed at me, “You have to be polite.” So I ate a piece of a banana. And the host cut off another slice of banana, so I ate that too. And another. And another. Even though I haven’t eaten a banana since… preschool? I can still feel that mushy, sickly sweetness in my mouth.
This dream, too, has a direct source. Our lovely neighbor has invited me and Carla over for lunch. The date is still pending, but oh my goodness I wish I could get out of it!
Eating at other people’s homes has always been a HUGE source of anxiety for me. While I do eat a large variety of foods, I have a lot of super picky aversions. It’s not as easy as saying, “Oh, I have an allergy to X” and then the host just doesn’t cook with X. The list is so long I could not even hope to cover it all.
I remember, as a kid, DREADING going over to other people’s houses to eat. Just absolutely finding it awful. I have a vivid memory of sitting at a friend’s dining table with her whole family as they ate what was, I’m sure, a perfectly lovely meal, and I was just choked with anxiety because I did not want to eat any of it. And I tried to eat things here and there – the bread, maybe – and my friend’s mother was scolding me to clean my plate. It was awful. I don’t think I ever ate at that friend’s house again. In fact, unless someone was clearly and definitely serving pizza or tacos, I don’t think I ever ate at ANYONE’s house again.
I will never do the ”clean your plate” thing to Carla and I will never force one of her friends in my care to eat something she doesn’t want to. But that’s children. I am a grown adult. I should be able to go to someone’s house and eat the food. And yet. It is very anxiety producing, because I am equally afraid that a) I will have to eat something I dislike or b) I will offend the host by rejecting something I do not want to eat.
I would say that my husband and I only rarely eat at other people’s houses. We have two sets of friends with whom we dine occasionally, and I feel like they are close enough friends that I can say, “No, I don’t eat lamb” when they ask, in advance of the dinner, if we eat lamb chops. (I say it regretfully, and embarrassedly, but with great relief.) But with the vast majority of people, you just show up! And eat the food they serve! I remember going to a new friend’s house and they served an absolutely beautiful meal of which the main course was chicken parmesan. Each breast was just smothered in tomatoes, which is probably my Number One Most Reviled Food. I cannot eat tomatoes; I have tried. I think I tried to be surreptitious in how I scraped them off the chicken, and then I helped wash the dishes, and I am SO hopeful that the host didn’t notice. (I am guessing the host noticed; I would notice. I would then, as host, fret that the food was bad or that I’d made something unpalatable to one of the guests.) Another time, we went to a friend’s house and she served chili with chunks of tomatoes in it. I ate around the tomatoes, but it’s so hard to do that in an unnoticeable way, and yet I cannot eat the tomatoes. I WISH I COULD. If I had access to a genie, and could only make selfish and self-serving wishes, I am pretty sure “make it so I love tomatoes” would be one of them.
All this talk about tomatoes is making me queasy.
Along the same lines: Carla eats nothing. She is FAR more picky than I am and has not developed the techniques I have honed over the years for eating things she doesn’t like but can stand, or taking (as my mother-in-law calls it) a no-thank-you portion of something she doesn’t want, or trying something that doesn’t look appealing, or swiftly moving an item to her husband’s plate for him to eat instead.
So now, this lovely, wonderful woman has extended this lovely invitation… to two people who eat NOTHING… and I not only have to somehow overcome my own anxieties about eating but also model good guest behavior to my child. Ugh ugh ugh. (What if she serves egg salad, a food I do not think I could force myself to eat??? Or some kind of lunch meat??? Or almost any normal lunch food????????)
Is there any way, after I have already said, “Oh that sounds lovely” to the neighbor, to now go back and say something like, “Carla and I have a bunch of really fussy food aversions – would it be possible to come have a glass of lemonade instead?” Is there any way?????? There isn’t, is there. I can almost picture her face falling as we reject her LOVELY invitation. Which is almost – but not quite – as bad as facing the Unknown Food.
That’s such a tricky thing, Suzanne. I’m sorry, I don’t have any good advice. Unless…could you see if you could change it to tea in mid-afternoon? Like if she says x day, say, “That day is great but what if we did 2:00 tea?” I don’t know if that would work particularly since she’s your neighbour.
WRT the bear: when I was little I saw this terrible TV movie that featured a rabid bear that tried to kill people living in a cabin in the woods, and it stuck with me, but no one had ever heard of it so I thought I dreamed it. Then when I was babysitting many years later, I SAW THAT EXACT SCENE ON TV.
Wait, I have given this more thought, and my thought is that Honesty is the Best Policy. Why not be honest with the neighbour, partly anyway, and if pressed for a date for lunch say “I’m sorry this is awkward/ embarrassing to say, but Carla has some (fill in the blank, sensory issues, eating issues, picky eating) and there are just so many things that she won’t eat. I don’t want to put you out, so is there any way we could come over mid-afternoon for tea?” That way, you’ve let her know and have offered an alternate. If I was the neighbour, I would be so grateful to have that information. Kids are picky! So what! So then you can pivot. She doesn’t necessarily need to know that there are foods that are difficult for you. If I was the neighbour, I would be more than happy to switch to tea/ cookies than to have made a lunch that will cause distress and go uneaten. So that’s my advice – be honest (sort of) with the neighbour. I always have to tell people about my food stuff (no meat, pretty much vegan) and it can be awkward for sure, but it’s better to say than to be faced with a meal you cannot eat, then it’s way more awkward for everyone involved.
Oh, I can so relate to this. I am also a rather picky eater- not so much about whole foods (I can eat pretty much any vegetable/fruit/ meat). I am VERY picky though about condiments! And things that people very often cook with- including ALL salad dressings, sour cream, mayo, mustard, pickles, etc. I also always feel stressed when going to eat at someone else’s house…what if they serve me pasta salad?? (for example…) I will not eat something with mayo in it! I have a super clear memory of babysitting at someone’s house when I was a young teen (the mom was working from home, and I was babysitting). The Dad stopped by and dropped off a bag of McDonald’s for all of us. We all sat down, together, at the table and he pulled out Big Macs for everyone. Which have that big mac dressing on them, plus mustard, plus pickles….I had no idea what to do!! Ha! This was years and years ago and I still remember so clearly.
I also have a bit of a phobia surrounding cooking for other people at my house, maybe as a result of my own food issues. But I always feel very self-conscious…how do I know what they like to eat? What if they hate what I make? What should I even make, for a guest?? (I cook for our family all the time, but I don’t feel like I’m maybe the most traditional cook. Some of our meals might seem totally random to someone else? I don’t know. I don’t regularly serve up a pot roast, or something.) This is something I regularly worry about. lol. If my husband mentions maybe having someone over, it’s the first thing I think of- or if he says a relative is going to come visit for a few days, for example, I will immediately start worrying about what we will eat.
I’m sorry about the tomatoes!! That would be tough! I do love tomato based things and we eat a ton of them. Husband is Mexican and many many Mexican dishes include tomatoes. I would probably have assumed a chicken parmesan would be a fairly safe “meal for entertaining”, too! So I feel for both you and your host! 🙂
I have a co-worker who has successfully made it so that none of us bring her food or expect her to eat any particular food at any event, and none of us even know the WHY, we just know food is fraught. I wish I could say exactly how she managed it, but she just Made It Known (it probably took quite some time, but I arrived after It Was Known) that she has So Many Food Issues, it’s not even worth going into it. And I think that is the strategy I would employ: the vague “so many food issues, it’s not even worth going into it”—without specifying whether they’re aversions or allergies or medical restrictions or migraine triggers or whatever, because what does it matter? So this particular upcoming occasion is already a bust and will have to “the only way past it is through it”-ed (unless someone perhaps comes down with a cough, and you hate to cancel but you want to be cautious—and then fortunately it turns out to be fine, just allergies), but IN THE FUTURE an invitation for lunch (or any food-forward activity) could be met with “Oh, how kind—but Carla and I have a zillion Food Issues between us—what if we [alternate activity suggestion, such as her coming to your house, or everyone packing their own lunches for a picnic, or going to a restaurant you know you and Carla can both order from, or going for a nice walk with no food, or WHATEVER] instead?”
I just re-read, and I see the lunch date is pending, not set. In that case, I think you’re going to be fine. She will have to revisit the topic by suggesting a date, and at that point you can do your script, which you will have rehearsed in your own words (most likely at 3:00 in the morning, which is when I do my fretful rehearsing) so that it sounds as breezy as possible. For my own words, I would do something like, “Oh—[*confiding, slightly bashful tone*/*slightly flustery hand gestures to indicate small but not debilitating embarrassment*]—the other day, I was so charmed by the lunch invitation, I just said YES immediately—but actually, Carla and I have a zillion food issues, so I wonder if it would work for you to come to lunch at our house instead? Or! [ <— as if I've just thought of it] should we all pack lunches to go eat at that nice park??" She won't have, like, bought lunch supplies yet at that point, so you will not be inconveniencing her, and the most likely thing is that she will be very relieved not to have to work around Food Issues. If she DOES persist ("Oh! I don't mind working around Food Issues!"), you will be ready with a reply like my co-worker's: "Oh! [*dismissive hand wave*]—no: REALLY. It's not even worth making a list. You would not even believe. No, let's do it at our house, or else the picnic!"
Last night I had a dream that Something was taking all the children. All the parents were trying to prevent it, but they'd turn their backs for a second and the child would just be sucked through the couch cushions or out a window or whatever and be gone.
Your description of food aversion reminded me of a time in early childhood when I was having dinner at my best friend’s house and was so grossed out by the food. It had onions and the texture really bothered me at the time. I tried to eat some bites, but gagged and the food did not stay down. I was mortified. Anyway, a lemonade date sounds like a lovely alternative to the lunch plans. Being upfront would be less awkward that trying to suffer through a difficult meal.
I think if I was hosting the lunch, I would rather have you say that you and Carla have some dietary issues but that you would be happy to bring (insert whatever food you like) to the lunch to share. Would that work?
My husband does not eat food other people have prepared. Full stop. So I am very used to uncomfortable food situations and how to get out of them. I think collmart above has a very good idea. A simple “we have some dietary restrictions and we’ll bring some food to share” or “let’s have a picnic – we’ll bring X if you bring Y.” You can even frame it as trying to save her the hassle/extra work of preparing food.
At first I thought it was a covid dream (people not taking the danger seriously and letting it in) but then I thought it was a gun violence dream. What times we live in that there ARE multiple reasonable interpretations. Sigh.
Sounds like you have a lot of advice on the food issue, so I’ve got nothing to add there.
I agree with the prior commenters about suggesting a potluck/picnic and bringing something that Carla and you would enjoy. I don’t think I’m picky but then I think–what if the meal consisted of lamb, oysters, sushi and peppers with watermelon for dessert. I would starve.
I was once on the way to a weekend with a friend at her parents’ cottage when she mentioned that they were doing lobster and corn on the cob for dinner. I don’t eat lobster, and I had a frozen moment of imagining myself trying to eat it, and seem like I was enjoying it, to be polite, ugh! I managed to say that I wasn’t really into lobster, so it would be a shame to waste it, but I love corn on the cob (fortunately true) and would be very happy to eat just that. And they accepted it without making me feel bad for spoiling the “treat.” But what if there had been no mention of corn? I would have been trapped! Which is just to say that I feel your pain here, and if you can head it off with some of the language others have suggested, it will feel awkward but not as much as the meal would be.
I am a fairly picky eater, and having children is a great relief because I can blame it on them. Everyone knows kids are picky. If you WOULD like to go to lunch, when the date is being set you could simply mention that Carla is a picky eater; what was she planning to serve? And then go from there. Or, is there something easy that you and Carla both enjoy for lunch? (Conspiratorial whisper) if you really want to be Carla’s BFF neighbor, you could serve X – she loves it! And then offer to bring a side or dessert that is “safe” just in case she planned a caprese salad and banana bread, lol. Solidarity on this issue!!!
I am literally LOLing at ‘caprese salad and banana bread.’ Oh my gosh!
I would be honest, something like “I’m so pleased with your lunch invitation. Carla and I both have some food issues so I might bring (fruit salad, sandwiches, a veggie tray) to accommodate that. Please don’t be offended if we don’t eat something you prepare. It has nothing to do with your preparation! What we are most looking forward to is time with you!” As a person who comes from a family where feeding people is the same as showing love, I would love to know this beforehand and adjust my thinking for the lunch date. (I have neighbors we adore. We have shared several meals with them. One meal, she brought rice a roni and her kids ate a single scoop each of that and nothing we prepared. She had rice a roni and some (close your eyes) raw tomatoes out of the salad I made. If I hadn’t known, I might have felt a tiny bit rejected by this. But I know they all have food stuff, so we shared a happy meal where everyone ate things they enjoyed. I think zero of asking/accepting invitations now. It’s much more about the company than the food.)
Ugh this is stressful. I think Nicole’s follow up suggestion about being honest about the pickiness and suggesting an afternoon tea or something along those lines works. We don’t entertain people very often – mostly just some good friends and I know their aversions, like my friend doesn’t eat olives so I only put them on half of the enchiladas and another friend doesn’t like – of all things – melted chees except on pizza so I know to not put cheese on her burger. But in general I tend to say “I’m planning to make X, would that work/would your kids eat that?” I have a gluten intolerance so that already makes me a difficult guest so we don’t eat at people’s houses very often. And my child is SO PICKY. He wanted to stay at the park longer last weekend and I agreed to let him stay and planned to pick him up at noon but then she said they were having so much fun so she said she’d keep him for longer and feed him lunch and I thought – oh dear God, what is he going to eat?? But this is a best friend and she knows about Paul’s pickiness and I just figured I would have to feed him again when he got home. But miraculously, he ate half of a grilled cheese sandwich and some slices of cheese.
Another time we went to brunch at a friend’s house and I knew our son would not eat anything except a pastry if they provided them. So we gave him a ‘no thank you’ serving of egg bake (love that terminology, by he way!) and he didn’t eat any of it, but I also noticed her kids didn’t eat their egg bake either so I felt less bad.
Outside of my gluten intolerance, I am the least picky person you will find and I always credited that to my parents, but now I have an incredibly picky child but don’t want ownership of that pickiness! Ha! So I guess it was just luck that I ended up so not picky?? But picky is probably a problematic phrase to use. I should say selective.
I think your best bet is to either fess up that Carla has food issues (no need to mention yours if you’d rather not) and ask what she is planning to make – as a hostess, I would appreciate the heads up and, I think, most of us are aware that children can be very picky eaters – or come up with an alternative (your house, a picnic, a restaurant, etc.). It sounds as if this neighbor would like to get to know you and Carla, so in time, this should become less of an issue as you become better acquainted.
As a picky eater myself, I’m always quick to ask people who are coming for a meal if they have aversions. If an unexpected guest shows up, I bring up the subject by letting them know I have no problem if they skip something I’ve made, or I could even make something for them specifically – just to keep discomfort at bay.
I will never forget being about 5 years old and handed a bologna sandwich by a friend’s mother (we were outside playing). I was thrilled, because I loved Oscar Mayer bologna sandwiches. But this was a different brand of bologna, and it was smeared with MUSTARD (gasp!) and it actually made me throw up. Mortifying!! I just did not expect anything that deviated from the sandwiches my mom made me, you know?
I would just go with honesty, when you make the lunch date. You’ve gotten some fantastic responses here on wording (better than I could do!) and I don’t believe the neighbor will be offended at all – she will probably be charmed, honestly. I know I would be! 🙂
I don’t like eating at other people’s homes too. I’ve done it more often than I care to admit because it was part of the social groups we used to run with. But now thanks to Covid-19 and our firm insistence on meeting at a restaurant, those days are probably behind us. I love your MIL’s “no-thank-you portion of something she doesn’t want.” Smart woman.
I agree with the being honest!! We all have our “quirks” and I think that food is a VERY, VERY common area that can be challenging to navigate, especially wiht regard preferences. I don’t think she’ll be surprised or offended and it’s okay to like what you like and be grossed out by certain foods others like. Give yourself full permission on that, please!
As many others have said, I’d just be honest… people had some great suggestions here how to address it… and the “more” easy you are about it, the better people will feel about your rejecting their invitation to eat food LOL
I’m arriving incredibly late, but I do feel for you. I have celiac disease and I hate asking at events what I can eat and sitting around waiting for someone to find out, and being nervous that even if they think it is OK, what if it ISN’T? Food that makes you sick or makes you want to be sick, all of it is hard. I like so many of the ideas here. Jumping ahead now to read how it all played out. Oh, I, too, hate bananas. My grandma made me eat one when I was a kid, even though my mom had stopped making us eat things we disliked. It was super unpleasant. So, I feel you there. I used to hate tomatoes. Now I eat them, but they must be chopped very fine in my salad.
SUZANNE. ARE YOU IN MY BRAIN. ARE YOU ME? AM I YOU?
I have the exact same food anxieties and I HATE eating at friends’ houses. I am an extremely picky eater and there are so many “normal” foods that people eat that I cannot stand. I hate going to a house where I know food will be served and feeling all of this anxiety about WHAT will be served and if I will like it. My mom has it even worse because she’s picky like me but also hates bread and pizza (unless it’s thin crust). So she’s usually SOL when there’s a family party or something like that because there is NOTHING for her to eat.
My other food anxiety is whether or not there WILL be food where I’m going. Do I need to feed myself beforehand? Will it be weird if I ate beforehand when we were meeting around dinnertime and shouldn’t I have known we were going to order food? What happens if I don’t eat, and I’m starving, and there’s no food or food I don’t like? ugh ugh ugh
I would just like to be normal about food, but nope.
I too would just like to be normal about food, Stephany!
The just you wait people… I HATES THEMMMM! Written in as much of a Sméagol way as possible since I am the mother of 3 girls aged 15 to 6.
Telling them I thanked god my surprise 3rd one wasn’t a boy tends to shut them up. And I’d marry my husband all over again for his response of: “huh. You have something against girls?” Type answers every time someone tries to pity him for his lot in life. He also says “oh poor me to be surrounded by beautiful and intelligent women my whole life!” When someone says they pity him. It’s stopped happening as much because of the way he responds and I will send out a big “FUCK them” to every woman who denigrates teenage girls just because she was such a nightmare mother to her own or was herself a nightmare because she needed better in her own life!!!!
The questions get harder but the hours get easier as these children grow- and literally NO child sucks more than babies! Screw them, seriously.